“Look where all this talking got us, baby. Four more years. Republicans control Congress. God help us.”

Does this mean you believe in God?

That sums it up perfectly. Amazing. (I always liked Live.) 4 more years. Of terror alerts. Of the patriot act. Of close minded unilateral foriegn policy. The american people have made their choice. and it makes really worried about the country I live in.

Four more years. Republicans control Congress…. AND.. Bush doesn’t have to worry about re-election… get ready for it to get worse.

Don’t know about anyone else, but I believe in God. And we’re going to need his help to get through this mess.

“Don’t know about anyone else, but I believe in God. And we’re going to need his help to get through this mess”

I agree with you We most Definately will need his help on this one.

Ummm, ever consider that Bush might move LEFT?! After all, he no longer has to worry about alienating the religious right (a necessary base to be re-elected). If reports are correct, the first casualty in the Bush cabinet will be the right-wing Ashcroft, signifying a move to the left no matter who gets put there (Giuliani?). Clearly, the left-wing doomsayers are too far left to recognize that the majority of voters are moderates. Demonizing the right-wing just riles them up, and makes the liberals look like radical whackos. Keep doing what you’re doing, and you’ll keep getting what you’re getting.

Ashcroft stepping down is a good start, but I doubt Bush is really going to move left.

The real reason this bothers me is because this is actually what the American people want, and I just don’t understand how so much of this country can (in my opinion) be so wrong. The country is more conservative than I’d like to admit, and I just don’t know how I can deal with that.

I am interested in knowing who is the person that says the quote: “I warned you, I instructed you, I prepared you, I told you what to expect…Do yourslef some service, like the day so conquer,” that is played in between the lyrics. I have searched the internet, but could not find the person. If anyone knows can you please tell me?

“White, Discussion” is about the apocalypse. Ed’s lyrics describe this (“as the final sunset rolls behind the earth and the clock is finally dead”). It’s hard to imagine the apocalypse. But somehow, David Koresh and the Branch Davidians holed up in a compound just outside of Waco, Texas in February of 1993 (about the time the songs for “Copper” were written), were absolutely convinced that the federal government was advancing on their peaceful residence. Led by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobaco and Firearms under the direction of Janet Reno and the Clinton administration, Koresh managed to convince the Davidians that this was “the end” for them. The voice is not likely Koresh himself (though it the words could very well have been spoken by him), but the band deliberately chose that particular soundbite because it so easily summarizes the song’s intent. The voice is all at once urgent, paranoid and reolute, suggesting that prophetic religious fanaticism could be our undoing as it was for Koresh and his ill-advised followers.

…many years later… I came here looking for the same information; wondering if there’s an original recording that is referenced anywhere or if it was a made-up soundbite intended to emulate Koresh as stated below.

2023. Look where all this talking got us baby.

The sample at the end is a shortwave radio evangelist. Ed didn’t even know who he was. He says “You yourself know serpents…. that the day shall cometh.” It was perfect for this song.

It’s funny because many of these comments highlight exactly what the song is about. Partisan bullcrap. They all play for the same team. The 2 party system divides us perfectly. Make no mistake. Their greatest fear is for us to someday realize the incredible amount of power we have if united. The propaganda media works full-time to make sure we stay divided and fighting amounst ourselves. Never taking the time to notice what the real problem is.The career criminals running the show.